Dads, PND and Anger.


“I scared them”, says the 35 year-old dad in the chair opposite me, “but I scared myself more”

He’s talking about raising his voice at home. At the people most dear to him. In a house where his baby lives. Even the dog hid under the bed.

He hasn’t been able to look any of them in the eye since, nor look at himself in the mirror.

On the way to work the next day, he had a panic attack – sudden overwhelming physical anxiety. He thought he was dying or going crazy.

That’s how he got sent to see me, a perinatal psychiatrist, after a visit to his local emergency department.

I actually think he’s among the 1 in 10 dads with PND (perinatal depression and anxiety), which is highly treatable and best detected early. So he’s come to the right place. I’ll tell him that soon.

But right now he’s busy telling me about his biggest fear – his own anger. If my treatment is really going to work, if he’s going to get better and stay better, we have to help him with this.  While there are many other ways PND can present in men, the shame this dad feels about his anger can make getting help that much harder, and every bit of help he gets can help his whole family.

This goes beyond perinatal mental health too. Anger issues in men can be part of other major mental health conditions, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) or addictions to alcohol, gambling, work or sex. Anger can also be related to unresolved grief, or complex trauma such as that seen in survivors of sexual abuse. And yet it is so often misunderstood, prejudged, placed in the “too hard basket”.

It’s certainly one of the biggest challenges in my work – at 6 feet tall and maybe 100kg of distressed dad, the physics alone is enough! Compare the body sizes involved: If a little boy or girl expresses strong anger in my office, I feel no threat, but rather a desire to understand a child’s inner life. If a mum expresses strong anger in the room with me, I may feel unsettled and try to help her be calmer if we are to work on understanding her inner life. But I won’t usually feel threatened.

Most dads, though, have longer bones, bigger muscles and deeper voices than the women and children in their lives. If a dad shows equivalent anger in my clinic it can feel threatening, scary even – he’s more physically able to hurt me or others, even if he has no intention to hurt anyone. Before there’s any understanding of any inner life, we have to deal with the fear out here in the room! Safety, both physical and emotional, comes first.

That fear of course, has history, and it’s all about safety, or lack of it. Most men experiencing strong feelings do not commit abuse, but sadly it happens. So many of my patients have suffered due to the behaviour of emotionally overwhelmed men, some of whom acted criminally. More broadly we know most victims of abuse are women and children; most perpetrators are men. And yet put a newborn boy alongside a newborn girl and it’s plain to see they are equally innocent. Where does it go wrong? Are men monsters waiting to happen?

This question haunts most men I’ve seen in the aftermath of scaring or hurting their loved ones with their strong anger. Their fear of being some kind of monster makes them want to hide in shame. Ironically, though, it’s that very fear that tells me a bloke has a set of values – deeply held beliefs about what’s right, what makes a good person.

I have learned from experience that we need a strength to start with, to prevent a man withdrawing in shame. Give us a bit of good news to begin talking, and we can approach the tricky stuff as we build an understanding. Anger, like all emotions in relationships, is rarely all located in one person and not the other, and it can be hard to resolve simplistic questions like “who started it?” with even simpler answers like “he did” or “she did”.

Make no mistake, a man must take full responsibility for the power of his body to protect or harm especially those nearest and dearest to him. But we can help him in this by starting with the positive side of anger – its protective capacity. Most parents can appreciate the “Mama Bear” side of anger, as a mother protects her cubs from predators and other dangers. Anger can motivate a dad similarly, to keep his loved ones safe from harm. It’s also a self-protective emotion, sensing unfairness and loss, or a perceived threat. I say this to parents in my practice: If someone is standing on your toes and you don’t feel angry, you’re less motivated to protect yourself. You could lose your toes – and to parent well you need to be on your toes! Parenting without enough self-protection does your child no favours.

Again, this is not excusing or permitting abusive behaviour. It is seeking to understand a dad’s feelings enough to help him choose helpful actions in the hot-seat moments of strong anger, and empower him to repair with others after the heat of the moment passes. We want a dad to be able to look his loved ones in the eye again. To look at himself in the mirror again.

It works  – as part of a carefully tailored medical treatment plan – for the vast majority of men with PND presenting to my practice because of anger issues.

I also think these learnings about men and anger, especially anger expressed around women and children, might have something to add to the bigger picture. Right now there’s a huge cultural moment under way, around gender equity, and men’s accountability for harmful behaviours now and over time, towards those over whom they have had power.

It starts at home. Here’s a little speech I might ask that dad at the start of this piece, to think about saying to his loved ones. It could also be said by any man to anyone physically smaller than him, whom he seeks to treat fairly and with kindness:

“I am bigger than you, nature seems to have made me that way. My voice is louder and scarier, my muscles stronger. I can hurt and scare you more easily than you can hurt or scare me. If I have ever hurt or scared you, I find that unacceptable, and I am sorry. I need to understand why it has happened, so I can act to prevent it happening again. I will find out about my emotions, how they work, and what I need to practice to get better at choosing actions that are not harmful to anyone, myself included. I will do what it takes to make sure I am someone safe for you. This will be the change of which I can be proudest in my life.”


As always, I am grateful to the colleagues who helped me develop this piece.


For further help:

Lifeline 13 11 14

Mensline 1800 600 636

10 thoughts on “Dads, PND and Anger.

  1. Gee I hope women read this as well as men. So so true and dads are often so misunderstood.
    I shall share in my little sphere of my business and my doctor daughter.
    By the way I forgot to say how helpful it was at the symposium that you gave a psychotherapeutic view and a great analogy of what lack of father involvement can do. The living with half a heart is so understandable and easy to think about and understand the meaning of the loss for individuals.
    I was going to put that thanks on twitter but was too scared of how to express myself about it Plus twitter still scares the living daylights out of me! My children don’t use it so they are useless in this endeavour!

    Sent from my iPhone


  2. I found this blog to be quite a well-written and interesting narrative about a topic that is often misunderstood. And yes, for adults anger is often reciprocated and contagious. It must surely be scary for young children.

    Quite a useful and compelling clinical explanation of anger – which after all is a natural emotion that all men (and women) experience at times. For men of course we fear that our anger if not managed might tip over into abuse because of our physical strength.

    I had not really thought about it much before in those terms, but because of our physical strength as men we have the capacity to protect as well as to harm our loved ones -and we need to take responsibility for and own that.

    By brother-in-law one told me when you’re in an argument with your wife and you’re really angry, don’t get physical; go for a walk around the block to cool down (don’t drive of course). I try to follow that advice.

    Ron Mitchell


    1. Hi Benjamin, I’m not familiar with services out that way, but GPs are the first port of call- they can check out a dad’s wellbeing and support him to get more specialised help if needed. There’s also mensline which can find local services accessible wherever a dad is located. Dads’ Group Inc helps dads set up local dads’ groups and is found at – hope that’s useful info!


  3. I find this article lacks fairness and objectivity – where is the source of your claim that “we know most victims of abuse are women”. A more reasonable claim might be that most abuse claims are reported by women. On the one hand you seem to edge towards fairness when you say both parties are at fault, and that we shouldnt blame people. On the other the overall import of the article is still that (all?) men are at fault. Moreover, on the face of ot it appears that men would be the main victims of rape and abuse in this society given their much higher rstes of suicide (from lifeline australia website) and incarceration. (More than 11 times the rate of females – abs website) So your statement about women needs further objective investigation. In regards to children who are victims within a family environment it is not at all clear what conclusions the statistics support. (Abs statistics from website) I would suggest more objective and logical work needs to be done before claims such as yours are made. I am sure a child is just as frightened (if not more) of a large angry obese mother as of a short and underweight anxious father. So your statement about large men frightening children is just more unsubstantiated predjudice and if run with race as the categories becomes completely unacceptable.


    1. Thanks for your views Paul, I welcome disagreement as it helps me with my thinking and learning. The last thing I’d want to do is further prejudice against men or any prejudice at all in fact – I agree it’s unacceptable. My aim is to use my clinical experience to help get important conversations happening. Like this one, for example! There are always exceptions to any broad statement and I value the points you raise.


  4. Hello Dr Roberts

    I can perfectly agree however life for me has taken a few turns. I lost my cool and my actions saw me end up in prison. My two sons are now in the custody of child safety. My wife and I are separated. Further to this my wife took out a dvo against me on the grounds of mental and psychological abuse. After being released from prison I relocated and am still trying to find a job. I am under the care of a GP/Counsellor and have joined a church where I am receiving support and care. I continue to reflect on my actions and I am the harshest judge of what has occured.


    1. Wow. What a story Cameron. Thank you for sharing it. Your observation that you are your own harshest judge would ring true for a lot more dads than some might assume. It’s what can sometimes stop a dad from asking for help – because his harsh inner judge has told him he doesn’t deserve help. Glad you went the other way and reached out.


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